Professor Paul Kirschner is a distinguished university professor and educational realist at the Open University of the Netherlands.

Paul joins me for a fascinating chat about modern education and debunking a series of educational myths, such as Learning Styles, Digital Natives, Learning Pyramids and Multi-Tasking. We also touch on the challenges of problem or discovery based learning in relation to cognitive load theory.


Here are links to the papers and books Paul mentioned:

Urban Myths about Learning and Education

The myths of the digital native and the multitasker

Why Minimal Guidance During Instruction Does Not Work: An Analysis of the Failure of Constructivist, Discovery, Problem-Based, Experiential, and Inquiry-Based Teaching

Here is a link to the website and book on Ten Steps to Complex Learning and Paul also blogs at 3-Star Learning Experiences: An Evidence-Informed Blog for Learning Professionals


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